August 17, 2009
The Cretinous French Calls for Burka Ban
France, the land of illiberal democracy is inching towards 'banning' clothes to fight ideas. I find it stupid. Fadela Amara, Minister of Urban 'Regeneration' gave an interview to the FT.com calling for full ban on burka. I rather doubt her logic follows, that banning the burqa - in particular in the context of the cretinous ban on headscarves in schools, will stem radical salafism.
An outright ban of the wearing of the burka in France would help stem the spread of the "cancer" of radical Islam, according to the country's Muslim minister for urban regeneration.Activist logic. It is worth noting that per Le Monde.fr reporting, a mere handful of Fr. residents wear the cretinous thing:
Fadela Amara, who is of Algerian descent, said the veil and headscarf combination covering everything but the eyes represented "the oppression of women, their enslavement, their humiliation".
Along with sexual oppression and poverty, she said, Muslim women suffered "a third form of oppression - extreme religiosity, the presence of fundamentalist groups who continue to propagate their discourse".
France was a beacon for an enlightened Islam at ease with modernity, so it was necessary to fight the "gangrene, the cancer of radical Islam which completely distorts the message of Islam", she said.
Getting rid of the burka would help women to stand up to the extremists within their communities, she argued.
"The vast majority of Muslims are against the burka. It is obvious why. Those who have struggled for women's rights back home in their own countries - I'm thinking particularly of Algeria - we know what it represents and what the obscurantist political project is that lies behind it, to confiscate the most fundamental liberties."
The same arguments against such a ban were made when France introduced legislation against the wearing of the veil [and religious items such as crosses or skullcaps] in schools and by public employees in 2004. But the move had helped Muslim women to face up to male chauvinism in their communities, Ms Amara said.
Début juin, une mission d'information parlementaire a été mise en place afin de rendre un rapport sur ce phénomène. Le chef de l'Etat, Nicolas Sarkozy, avait estimé que la burqa ou le niqab (voile intégral ne laissant apparaître que les yeux) n'étaient pas "le bienvenu sur le territoire de la République". Selon des données du renseignement policier que s'est procuré Le Monde, seules 367 femmes ont adopté le voile intégral sur l'ensemble du territoire.367 women of millions. Obviously a danger to the Republic.
An added item for consideration in this context, Fears of an Islamic revolt in Europe begin to fade The Observer
For Bruce Bawer, author of While Europe Slept, the continent's future was to "tamely resign itself to a gradual transition to absolute sharia law". By the end of the century, warned Bernard Lewis, the famous American historian of Islam, "Europe will be Islamic". The Daily Telegraph asked: "Is France on the way to becoming an Islamic state?" The Daily Mail described the riots that shook the nation in the autumn of 2005 as a "Muslim intifada".
Yet a few years on, though a steady drumbeat of apocalyptic forecasts continues, such fears are beginning to look misplaced. The warnings focus on three elements: the terrorist threat posed by radical Muslim European populations; a cultural "invasion" due to a failure of integration; and demographic "swamping" by Muslim communities with high fertility rates.
A new poll by Gallup, one of the most comprehensive to date, shows that the feared mass radicalisation of the EU's 20-odd million Muslims has not taken place. Asked if violent attacks on civilians could be justified, 82% of French Muslims and 91% of German Muslims said no. The number who said violence could be used in a "noble cause" was broadly in line with the general population. Crucially, responses were not determined by religious practice - with no difference between devout worshippers and those for whom "religion [was] not important".
Powered by ScribeFire.
TrackBack URL for this entry:
Typical French Islamic obsessions and illiberalism indeed.
And Amara is an instrumentalized piece of shit craving for recognition. Ironically a true racaille in manners and appearance.
Several major parties in Denmark also started calling for nationwide burqa bans over the last week, and the deputy PM called Muslim refusal to adopt "Danish values" a greater threat than global warming. I strongly urge Muslims to avoid those kinds of Danish values...
Posted by: alle at August 17, 2009 01:33 PM
I do not have a great deal of personal sympathy for the wearers of Ninja costumes, the Saudi style Niqab (the old traditional Maghrebi Niqab is too quaint and silly to get upset about; the Oman or old Emirate mask 'Niqab' is ... 'interesting' in the manner of say a Louis XIV ball) or the Afghan style Burqa. Indeed, I think they are either idiot traditionalists, ignorant bumpkins, sometimes oppressed women per se, or nasty ideologues. I should make this clear, my position on the hidjab - the head scarf - is utterly different. At its "worst" the hidjab is merely idiot traditionalism. The wearing of a headscarf is nothing, and can be entirely 'expressive' as such.
At the same time, banning the outfit (Saudi style Niqab outfit) gives them cause.
On the other hand, I do think wearing the thing (unlike the hidjab) should be actively discouraged. There is something deeply anti-social about all modes of dress in a modern urban society that involve covering the face.
It would seem logical that the state, while affirming the perfect right to wear the bloody thing, can and perhaps should also render its wearing logistically difficult. That is for anyone covering the face - no religious function need be cited (scarf wearers in winter might well qualify - that the wearer must expose the face under certain circumstances (e.g. passing before security camera zones, etc). Legitimate security concerns thus can be addressed.
Sadly, France, in its idiotic attack on the hidjab, which is harmless and contra Fadela, I know of now DATA indicating any bloody changes relative to the filles de bainlieu and their lives...., has undermined its own position.
Posted by: The Lounsbury at August 17, 2009 02:17 PM
Ga. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the hijab wearers either. It is 1) ugly 2) sends a negative image of Islam 3) subject to interpretation 4) effectively acts as a hurdle for those women who wear it 5) is representative of a mindset that diverts energies from actual solutions to social/economic/political issues.
That said, none of these is the actual cause of all those illiberal westerners (and their Fadelas) calling for its ban. Neither is women emancipation. Concern among the gullible idiots about a few hundreds taking over entire western countries and imposing Afghanistan bis, could be.
More insidiously, it's simply a rejection of the (Muslim) Other (or Self, in the case of the Fadelas).