If I’ve managed to follow your logical leaps correctly probable pretext tied in with little access means that it continues to be possible to justify vile hints against those pesky other other other others whose preference tends towards a new and kinder, gentler version of al insan al kamil.

No actual condemnation of the Iranian government on your part, but res ipsa loquiter, I suppose.

If I’ve managed to follow your logical leaps correctly probable pretext tied in with little access means that it continues to be possible to justify vile hints against those pesky other other other others whose preference tends towards a new and kinder, gentler version of al insan al kamil.

No actual condemnation of the Iranian government on your part, but res ipsa loquiter, I suppose.

And your home planet is what now?

As always, planet Earth. You should try paying us a visit sometime.

Is that the Earth where the principle Res Ipsa Loquitur has become res ipsa loquiter?

"People called Romanes, they go the 'ouse?"

I am often surprised that the Baha'i exist at all in Iran, it seems like the entire faith, which directly claim that the Bahaullah was the Mahdi, should, if no other faith, be stamped out by the Muslims, most of the by the Shia. I mean, if there were ever heretics within Islam, the Baha'i certianly are no?
To be clear, I don't beleive that there is anything actually wrong with their religion and I certainly don't beleive that they should be harrassed, let along /killed/ because of it. I am just saying, it seems like it would be enemy number 1 someone thats actually looking for an enemy.

Anyway, I have a question for the more knowledgeable people here. As far as I understand it, in Iran, there are the Bah'ai and the Babis, with the Babis being those follwers of the Bab who did /not/, ultimately, support Bahaullah, who claimed to be the fulfillment of what the Bab spoke about (or something along those lines). When we see about crackdowns on the Baha'i in Iran, can we also assume that the Baibs are also being cracked down upon? Or are they so few as to escape focus?

Forgive my ignorance on such matters if it has come up in the above.

As a share of the total Iranian population, the Bahais are a tiny tiny minority. This, in conjunction with their commitment for keeping their heads down politically and organizationally explain the de facto tolerance. There's also the issue of UN pressure, which is not as insignificant as most presume. The UN special rapporteur for human rights occasionally reports on the Bahai issue and often the Iranian government decides that the minimal gains of scapegoating the Bahais is usually not worth the negative attention and pressure such actions bring. With westerners threatening ever stronger sanctions and the US threatening war, why give them another excuse? Why make it easier for Iran-hawks to sell their agenda by invoking blatant human rights abuses(as was done over Saddam's treatment of his minorities)?

This is not to say that there hasn't been large-scale attempts to get rid of the Bahais. There was a lot of violent repression when the religion first appeared in the mid-1800s. It spread extremely rapidly in the beginning, similar to Quakerism, and thousands were slaughtered. After the 1979 Revolution, there was another, albeit smaller, round of repression back when the ayatollahs were busy destroying the many competing organizations(the leftists were far more important in this regard and were hit a lot harder).

The Babis are a dramatically smaller group than the Bahis and so under the radar even more so. Neither are a real threat and so neither are worth the effort of eradicating.

While we certainly deplore the abuse and injustices of Iranian authorities towards Baha'is in that Nation, we consider that readers should be informed that The National Spiritual Assembly of Bahá'ís of the United States is acting with a similar attitude and plans towards Orthodox Baha'is in America as the attitude and plans of Iranian authorities towards Baha'is who live in that Nation. The National Spiritual Assembly of Baha'is of the United States is attempting to use U.S. Courts to force Orthodox Baha'is to stop practicing their Faith, stopping them from identifying themselves as Baha'is or using the name Baha'i or the symbols of their Faith. The National Spiritual Assembly
failed in its Court Action to deprive Orthodox Baha'is of their freedom of religion and now the National Spiritual Assembly filed an appeal to the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals of Judge Amy J. St. Eve's decision in favor of the Orthodox Baha'i Faith. Here is the link which leads to the details of the Court Action: http://www.truebahai.com/court_case.html

Evidently the goal/plan of the leadership of the large body of Baha'is concerning Orthodox Baha'is parallels the goal/plan of Islamic leaders in Iran towards Baha'is, namely to eradicate them, and the justification of the leadership of the large body of Baha'is for its actions against Orthodox Baha'is is identical, namely, that it considers Orthodox Baha'is to be apostates (heretical/Covenant-breakers).

Is that the group that doesn't agree with the Shoghi Effendi succession?

This tactic seems something like the use of copyright laws to prevent Ahmadis from self-identifying as Muslims in Pakistan.