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September 01, 2008

Ramadan Mubarek et New Month Open Thread:

Ramadan Mubarek etc.

Expect soon stories of:
(a) How awful this year's Ramadan Soaps are (a yearly journalistic staple)
(b) Sugar & other staples shortages, due to bad planning (yes oddly the month of fasting sees an increase in consumption, esp. of the least healthy staples, generally)
(c) General boilerplate celebration of how fasting & Ramadan encourages solidarity etc.
(d) Juxtaposed, because Beni Adam, Beni Adam, stories such as the yearly staple of the irate husband who's short on his nicotine fix, etc, doing something atrocious to his family, in-laws, etc.
(e) Lots of bad Ramadan Schlocko art emailed about.

So there we are, a special Lounsbury Ramadan Mubarek, wa Kul 3am wa intou Tayabine

And no I don't hate Ramadan, I am just getting myself all ready in advance for the more absurd aspects, driven by the human condition, and the annoying universal tendency for people to blither on endlessly about festivals juxtaposing the good with the bad without being able to admit the same.

Posted by The Lounsbury at September 1, 2008 07:17 AM
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Posted by: Klaus [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 1, 2008 09:24 AM

Warning: Israel-Palestine.

Remarkable editorial by Dennis Ross urging the US to support Mahmoud Abbas in extending his own mandate by presidential decree, and to push to derail the legal date for elections.

Posted by: alle at September 15, 2008 09:24 AM

Very little has gone discussed in this thread:

but this is interesting, one of the interviewees from the propaganda film "Obsession" was a Qur'an-only (see Shaheen's thread) muslim - and he objects to his being used for ulterior purposes.

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www.obsessionwithhate.com/thepundits.php#khaleel

Dr. Khaleel Mohammed, was the only interviewee from the film “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West” who was an Islamic Studies Professor. The following is his response to the his role in the film, and what he thinks about it:

“Sadly, it would seem that I have allowed myself to be used. I gave an interview to the makers of “obsession” wherein I explained the meaning of Jihad, and its misuse by extremists. I understood that the film would be used objectively, focusing on fanatics who seek to spread violence. I am aware that there is a disclaimer at the beginning of the film that says it is not about Islam in general, but only about extremist interpretations.

“But the material from some of the speakers gives the lie to the disclaimer: many of them are not experts, or have used the mantle of academic qualifications to purvey hate. That their alarmist drivel should be mixed with my whittled down interview proves that the intent of the film is not to educate, but to mislead. The free distribution of the film to voters in particular districts shows the political chicanery that is the motive, and the secrecy about the financing of the distribution only underlines the evil intent in circulating this vile piece of propaganda.

“Evidence seems to indicate the involvement of Aish ha-Torah in this dishonest enterprise. I find that particularly distressing, because any Jewish organization ought to realize what the film seeks to do: they demonize an entire community to the point where a government takes action to further beleaguer its citizens and resident aliens simply because of their religious identity. This bigotry over religion and identity is precisely what caused the Shoah — and it is sad that those who ought to have learned what hate can engender should seek to imitate Nazi propagandism.

“Yet — for all the nefarious intent of the distributors of the film — I must also accept culpability for allowing myself to be so used. I still oppose many of the traditional interpretations of Islam—but that has nothing to do with the film Obsession. I cannot stand by silently and allow my participation in such satanic demonization of innocents. I apologize to my fellow Muslims for appearing in such a film. I apologize to my Jewish teachers and friends– who have warned me time and again about falling into such a situation—for not heeding their counsel. And I expect now that those who support the film will make me their target. But again: I am no diplomat, and I love a good fight. I am obsessed with the truth. Let’s get it on. “

Posted by: dawud at September 28, 2008 11:25 AM

Very little has gone discussed in this thread:

but this is interesting, one of the interviewees from the propaganda film "Obsession" was a Qur'an-only (see Shaheen's thread) muslim - and he objects to his being used for ulterior purposes.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

www.obsessionwithhate.com/thepundits.php#khaleel

Dr. Khaleel Mohammed, was the only interviewee from the film “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West” who was an Islamic Studies Professor. The following is his response to the his role in the film, and what he thinks about it:

“Sadly, it would seem that I have allowed myself to be used. I gave an interview to the makers of “obsession” wherein I explained the meaning of Jihad, and its misuse by extremists. I understood that the film would be used objectively, focusing on fanatics who seek to spread violence. I am aware that there is a disclaimer at the beginning of the film that says it is not about Islam in general, but only about extremist interpretations.

“But the material from some of the speakers gives the lie to the disclaimer: many of them are not experts, or have used the mantle of academic qualifications to purvey hate. That their alarmist drivel should be mixed with my whittled down interview proves that the intent of the film is not to educate, but to mislead. The free distribution of the film to voters in particular districts shows the political chicanery that is the motive, and the secrecy about the financing of the distribution only underlines the evil intent in circulating this vile piece of propaganda.

“Evidence seems to indicate the involvement of Aish ha-Torah in this dishonest enterprise. I find that particularly distressing, because any Jewish organization ought to realize what the film seeks to do: they demonize an entire community to the point where a government takes action to further beleaguer its citizens and resident aliens simply because of their religious identity. This bigotry over religion and identity is precisely what caused the Shoah — and it is sad that those who ought to have learned what hate can engender should seek to imitate Nazi propagandism.

“Yet — for all the nefarious intent of the distributors of the film — I must also accept culpability for allowing myself to be so used. I still oppose many of the traditional interpretations of Islam—but that has nothing to do with the film Obsession. I cannot stand by silently and allow my participation in such satanic demonization of innocents. I apologize to my fellow Muslims for appearing in such a film. I apologize to my Jewish teachers and friends– who have warned me time and again about falling into such a situation—for not heeding their counsel. And I expect now that those who support the film will make me their target. But again: I am no diplomat, and I love a good fight. I am obsessed with the truth. Let’s get it on. “

Posted by: dawud at September 28, 2008 11:25 AM

please delete the first of my accidental (unintentional) repeat messages

Posted by: dawud at September 28, 2008 11:30 AM

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